Reverse Forecasts with same Stallion

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PuzzledLook
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Reverse Forecasts with same Stallion

Postby PuzzledLook » Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:12 am

These are Reverse Forecasts where the 2 selections have the same Stallion - follow with caution. I'm staking the usual £2 per race.

1.50 Cheltenham WARTHOG / MY WAY (Stallion = MARTALINE) return of £38.19 / £36.99 - U/R & 6th = Loss of £2

2.10 Fairyhouse MINELLA MELODY / COLREEVY (Stallion = FLEMENSFIRTH) return of £26.49 / £25.87 - 1st & 2nd = Profit of £24.49

2.55 Lingfield LILY LIKE / TOO SHY SHY (Stallion = KODIAC) return of £52.95 / £58.23 - 7th & 1st = Loss of £2

3.35 Cheltenham WILLIAM HENRY / L'AMI SERGE (Stallion = KINGS THEATRE) return of £262.70 / £213.01 - 8th & 7th = Loss of £2

Profit on the day of £18.49

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Re: Reverse Forecasts with same Stallion

Postby PuzzledLook » Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:17 pm

There are 2 of the (worthwhile?) selections for Sunday;

1.20 Fontwell NO TRUMPS / THE PREMIER CELTIC (Stallion is BLACK SAM BELLAMY) to return £81.70 / £86.16 - 9th & 3rd

3.40 Naas CARAVATION / THE CADDY ROSE (Stallion is PRESENTING) to return £44.86 / £51.93 - 6th & 4th

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Re: Reverse Forecasts with same Stallion

Postby PuzzledLook » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:37 am

5 for today with 1 very speculative (aren't they all?);

1.45 Kelso UPTOWN HARRY / PERFECT MAN (Stallion is MOROZOV) = £21.49 / £18.27 - 5th & 1st

3.15 Kelso LAKE VIEW LAD / THE CON MAN ( Stallion is OSCAR) = £21.23 / £12.30 - 3rd & 1st

4.15 Kelso LADY VILLANELLE / MISSY MAY (Stallion is SHANTOU) = £518.93 / £589.65 - 2nd & 5th

4.30 Wolves PERCY PROSECCO / LOVELY LOU LOU (Stallion is SIR PERCY) = £129.26 / £134.62 - 5th & 8th

5.30 Wolves SEAFORTH / ZESHOV (Stallion is ACCLAMATION) = £71.69 / £80.37 - 5th & 6th

Now 1 with the same Stallion (MILAN) but an Each Way Bet as horses running in different races;

3.00 Plumpton THE WICKET CHICKEN / 3rtd
3.45 Kelso COCKLE BAY / 9th

£1 E/W could return £62.56

Following in Martin' s day out at Cheltenham on Saturday, I'm struggling to find a profitable day with a loss of £12

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Re: Reverse Forecasts with same Stallion

Postby PuzzledLook » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:06 pm

2 later races at Southwell;

5.25 LIAMBA (Number 3) /SANDRIDGE LAD (Number 4) (Stallion is EQUIANO) = £15.10 / £15.50 - 7th & 1st

Also there is a third horse running in this race, CAPTAIN DION (Number 1) with EQUIANO as the stallion so I have placed a small Tricast @ 25p per line as follows and using their card numbers;
CAPTAIN DION was placed 2nd - Just got the wrong 2 in original forecast!

3 - 4 - 1 = £26.18
3 - 1 - 4 = £31.10
4 - 3 - 1 = £26.42
4 - 1 - 3 = £31.71
1 - 3 - 4 = £35.83
1 - 4 - 3 = £36.20

7.25 TATHMEEN / MULZIM (Stallion is EXCEED AND EXCEL) = £18.60 / £20.26 - 7th & 1st

Therefore total stakes today, relatively small, at £5.50

Unfortunately a NEARLY DAY but no winners means a total loss. Will re-jig for tomorrow but in a slightly different format.
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Re: Reverse Forecasts with same Stallion

Postby martinkil » Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:07 pm

I presume you're using the sire stats on the "Dobbing over view cards"?
Maybe if you only pick those stallions with a high win %

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Re: Reverse Forecasts with same Stallion

Postby PuzzledLook » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:42 pm

Yes Martin been using the Stallion stats and the interesting thing about today was just betting on the "Top Stallion %" the results are remarkable;

Down Royal with 7 races - 2 winners @ 100-1 & 12-1 / Profit of 107

Newcastle with 7 races - 2 winners @ Evens & 11-10 / Loss of 2.9

Southwell with 7 races - 2 winners @ 20-1 & 7-2 / Profit of 18.5

Overall with 21 races and 6 winners there was a profit of 122.6 - AMAZING DAY

I shall as already mentioned in the thread above produce some selections using this new criteria.
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Re: Reverse Forecasts with same Stallion

Postby PuzzledLook » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:59 am

7 selections from today's 2 meetings at Leicester & Kempton with 3 only with the same Stallion whilst the other 4 contain the leading Stallions in that particular race;

3.15 Leicester ROOTLESS TREE/SWAFFHAM BULBECK (Stallion is JEREMY) = £56.73/£63.96 - 5th & 4th

3.45 Leicester CATAMARAN DU SEUIL/AINTREE MY DREAM = £30.64/£36.17 - 2nd & 3rd

4.15 Leicester OVER STATED/DREWMAIN LEGEND = £38.50/£29.60 - 5th & P/U

4.45 Kempton EN FAMILLE/KING OF ARMS = £9.75/£9.24 - 5th & 1st

5.15 Kempton GROUP ONE POWER/LADY SANSA (Stallion is LOPE DE VEGA) = £39.48/£43.00 - 1st & 3rd

7.15 Kempton PRIDE OF ANGELS/SPLIT DOWN SOUTH (Stallion is DARK ANGEL) = £15.91/£11.30 - 6th & 4th

8.15 Kempton BUTTERFIELD/MOONLIT SEA = £50.54/£61.25 - 7th & 8th

Another poor day with a couple of "nearly there" but I've decided to give posting a rest for the foreseeable future and just do my own thing.


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