These are Reverse Forecasts where the 2 selections have the same Stallion - follow with caution. I'm staking the usual £2 per race.
1.50 Cheltenham WARTHOG / MY WAY (Stallion = MARTALINE) return of £38.19 / £36.99 - U/R & 6th = Loss of £2
2.10 Fairyhouse MINELLA MELODY / COLREEVY (Stallion = FLEMENSFIRTH) return of £26.49 / £25.87 - 1st & 2nd = Profit of £24.49
2.55 Lingfield LILY LIKE / TOO SHY SHY (Stallion = KODIAC) return of £52.95 / £58.23 - 7th & 1st = Loss of £2
3.35 Cheltenham WILLIAM HENRY / L'AMI SERGE (Stallion = KINGS THEATRE) return of £262.70 / £213.01 - 8th & 7th = Loss of £2
Profit on the day of £18.49
Reverse Forecasts with same Stallion
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Re: Reverse Forecasts with same Stallion
There are 2 of the (worthwhile?) selections for Sunday;
1.20 Fontwell NO TRUMPS / THE PREMIER CELTIC (Stallion is BLACK SAM BELLAMY) to return £81.70 / £86.16 - 9th & 3rd
3.40 Naas CARAVATION / THE CADDY ROSE (Stallion is PRESENTING) to return £44.86 / £51.93 - 6th & 4th
1.20 Fontwell NO TRUMPS / THE PREMIER CELTIC (Stallion is BLACK SAM BELLAMY) to return £81.70 / £86.16 - 9th & 3rd
3.40 Naas CARAVATION / THE CADDY ROSE (Stallion is PRESENTING) to return £44.86 / £51.93 - 6th & 4th
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Re: Reverse Forecasts with same Stallion
5 for today with 1 very speculative (aren't they all?);
1.45 Kelso UPTOWN HARRY / PERFECT MAN (Stallion is MOROZOV) = £21.49 / £18.27 - 5th & 1st
3.15 Kelso LAKE VIEW LAD / THE CON MAN ( Stallion is OSCAR) = £21.23 / £12.30 - 3rd & 1st
4.15 Kelso LADY VILLANELLE / MISSY MAY (Stallion is SHANTOU) = £518.93 / £589.65 - 2nd & 5th
4.30 Wolves PERCY PROSECCO / LOVELY LOU LOU (Stallion is SIR PERCY) = £129.26 / £134.62 - 5th & 8th
5.30 Wolves SEAFORTH / ZESHOV (Stallion is ACCLAMATION) = £71.69 / £80.37 - 5th & 6th
Now 1 with the same Stallion (MILAN) but an Each Way Bet as horses running in different races;
3.00 Plumpton THE WICKET CHICKEN / 3rtd
3.45 Kelso COCKLE BAY / 9th
£1 E/W could return £62.56
Following in Martin' s day out at Cheltenham on Saturday, I'm struggling to find a profitable day with a loss of £12
1.45 Kelso UPTOWN HARRY / PERFECT MAN (Stallion is MOROZOV) = £21.49 / £18.27 - 5th & 1st
3.15 Kelso LAKE VIEW LAD / THE CON MAN ( Stallion is OSCAR) = £21.23 / £12.30 - 3rd & 1st
4.15 Kelso LADY VILLANELLE / MISSY MAY (Stallion is SHANTOU) = £518.93 / £589.65 - 2nd & 5th
4.30 Wolves PERCY PROSECCO / LOVELY LOU LOU (Stallion is SIR PERCY) = £129.26 / £134.62 - 5th & 8th
5.30 Wolves SEAFORTH / ZESHOV (Stallion is ACCLAMATION) = £71.69 / £80.37 - 5th & 6th
Now 1 with the same Stallion (MILAN) but an Each Way Bet as horses running in different races;
3.00 Plumpton THE WICKET CHICKEN / 3rtd
3.45 Kelso COCKLE BAY / 9th
£1 E/W could return £62.56
Following in Martin' s day out at Cheltenham on Saturday, I'm struggling to find a profitable day with a loss of £12
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Re: Reverse Forecasts with same Stallion
2 later races at Southwell;
5.25 LIAMBA (Number 3) /SANDRIDGE LAD (Number 4) (Stallion is EQUIANO) = £15.10 / £15.50 - 7th & 1st
Also there is a third horse running in this race, CAPTAIN DION (Number 1) with EQUIANO as the stallion so I have placed a small Tricast @ 25p per line as follows and using their card numbers;
CAPTAIN DION was placed 2nd - Just got the wrong 2 in original forecast!
3 - 4 - 1 = £26.18
3 - 1 - 4 = £31.10
4 - 3 - 1 = £26.42
4 - 1 - 3 = £31.71
1 - 3 - 4 = £35.83
1 - 4 - 3 = £36.20
7.25 TATHMEEN / MULZIM (Stallion is EXCEED AND EXCEL) = £18.60 / £20.26 - 7th & 1st
Therefore total stakes today, relatively small, at £5.50
Unfortunately a NEARLY DAY but no winners means a total loss. Will re-jig for tomorrow but in a slightly different format.
5.25 LIAMBA (Number 3) /SANDRIDGE LAD (Number 4) (Stallion is EQUIANO) = £15.10 / £15.50 - 7th & 1st
Also there is a third horse running in this race, CAPTAIN DION (Number 1) with EQUIANO as the stallion so I have placed a small Tricast @ 25p per line as follows and using their card numbers;
CAPTAIN DION was placed 2nd - Just got the wrong 2 in original forecast!
3 - 4 - 1 = £26.18
3 - 1 - 4 = £31.10
4 - 3 - 1 = £26.42
4 - 1 - 3 = £31.71
1 - 3 - 4 = £35.83
1 - 4 - 3 = £36.20
7.25 TATHMEEN / MULZIM (Stallion is EXCEED AND EXCEL) = £18.60 / £20.26 - 7th & 1st
Therefore total stakes today, relatively small, at £5.50
Unfortunately a NEARLY DAY but no winners means a total loss. Will re-jig for tomorrow but in a slightly different format.
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Re: Reverse Forecasts with same Stallion
I presume you're using the sire stats on the "Dobbing over view cards"?
Maybe if you only pick those stallions with a high win %
Maybe if you only pick those stallions with a high win %
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Re: Reverse Forecasts with same Stallion
Yes Martin been using the Stallion stats and the interesting thing about today was just betting on the "Top Stallion %" the results are remarkable;
Down Royal with 7 races - 2 winners @ 100-1 & 12-1 / Profit of 107
Newcastle with 7 races - 2 winners @ Evens & 11-10 / Loss of 2.9
Southwell with 7 races - 2 winners @ 20-1 & 7-2 / Profit of 18.5
Overall with 21 races and 6 winners there was a profit of 122.6 - AMAZING DAY
I shall as already mentioned in the thread above produce some selections using this new criteria.
Down Royal with 7 races - 2 winners @ 100-1 & 12-1 / Profit of 107
Newcastle with 7 races - 2 winners @ Evens & 11-10 / Loss of 2.9
Southwell with 7 races - 2 winners @ 20-1 & 7-2 / Profit of 18.5
Overall with 21 races and 6 winners there was a profit of 122.6 - AMAZING DAY
I shall as already mentioned in the thread above produce some selections using this new criteria.
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Re: Reverse Forecasts with same Stallion
7 selections from today's 2 meetings at Leicester & Kempton with 3 only with the same Stallion whilst the other 4 contain the leading Stallions in that particular race;
3.15 Leicester ROOTLESS TREE/SWAFFHAM BULBECK (Stallion is JEREMY) = £56.73/£63.96 - 5th & 4th
3.45 Leicester CATAMARAN DU SEUIL/AINTREE MY DREAM = £30.64/£36.17 - 2nd & 3rd
4.15 Leicester OVER STATED/DREWMAIN LEGEND = £38.50/£29.60 - 5th & P/U
4.45 Kempton EN FAMILLE/KING OF ARMS = £9.75/£9.24 - 5th & 1st
5.15 Kempton GROUP ONE POWER/LADY SANSA (Stallion is LOPE DE VEGA) = £39.48/£43.00 - 1st & 3rd
7.15 Kempton PRIDE OF ANGELS/SPLIT DOWN SOUTH (Stallion is DARK ANGEL) = £15.91/£11.30 - 6th & 4th
8.15 Kempton BUTTERFIELD/MOONLIT SEA = £50.54/£61.25 - 7th & 8th
Another poor day with a couple of "nearly there" but I've decided to give posting a rest for the foreseeable future and just do my own thing.
3.15 Leicester ROOTLESS TREE/SWAFFHAM BULBECK (Stallion is JEREMY) = £56.73/£63.96 - 5th & 4th
3.45 Leicester CATAMARAN DU SEUIL/AINTREE MY DREAM = £30.64/£36.17 - 2nd & 3rd
4.15 Leicester OVER STATED/DREWMAIN LEGEND = £38.50/£29.60 - 5th & P/U
4.45 Kempton EN FAMILLE/KING OF ARMS = £9.75/£9.24 - 5th & 1st
5.15 Kempton GROUP ONE POWER/LADY SANSA (Stallion is LOPE DE VEGA) = £39.48/£43.00 - 1st & 3rd
7.15 Kempton PRIDE OF ANGELS/SPLIT DOWN SOUTH (Stallion is DARK ANGEL) = £15.91/£11.30 - 6th & 4th
8.15 Kempton BUTTERFIELD/MOONLIT SEA = £50.54/£61.25 - 7th & 8th
Another poor day with a couple of "nearly there" but I've decided to give posting a rest for the foreseeable future and just do my own thing.
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