Flat Racing Explained - by Analyst

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Flat Racing Explained - by Analyst

Postby martinkil » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:03 am

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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:49 am Post subject: Flat Racing Explained - by Analyst

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Scanned book written in 1899 which I picked up in the early 1990's.
I'll be adding chapters each week as I get the time to scan them.

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:37 am Post subject: Thank You

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Hi Martin, Thank you, this is great suff, brilliant idea, have read the pages put up so far. Fascinating, can't wait for the next installment ! Kind regards, Eifion

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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:11 pm Post subject:

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Very kind of you to mention it Eifion. I've uploaded the next section.

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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:00 am Post subject:

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Chapters Handicaps (Chap VIII) & Weights (Chap IX) have been uploaded today.

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Eifion Eyles



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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:39 am Post subject: Thank you

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Thank you Martin and also for the bonus this week of two chapters, it is a really enloyable read for anyone interested in horses and horse racing, very informative and still valid today, I believe.
You mentioned in your introduction to this book that you also have it in text form. Would it be possible for you to put this up later please, (in a zip file or whatever), when all the jpegs have been put up?
I hope more people are interested.
Once again, thank you for all the hard work you put in. Kind regards, Eifion

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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:27 am Post subject:

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I've added the chapters on Courses (Chap X) and Time (Chap XI/XII/XIII)

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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: Thank you Martin

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Once again thank you Martin, kind regards, Eifion

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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: Hi Martin

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Hi Martin,
I'm not really pushing for the next espisodes etc as I know you are very busy. I am, however, posting just to let you know I am awaiting them eagerly.
I know it seems I alone am interested, I do hope there are others out there who are but aren't posting as such.
You mention in your introduction you have converted this to text. Will you be putting this file up also? If not could you please e-mail it to me when the book is fully uploaded?

Many thanks,
Kind regards, as always,
Eifion

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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:16 pm Post subject:

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Thanks Martin for this informative book.
Analyst was discussing aspects in 1890s that many don't even understand the importance of today.
It must have had some effect on the Jockey Club as F H Bayles undertook a detailed survey of all British and Irish courses in 1903 - complete with gradients and soils data. Something that in an up to date form remains missing even today. The attitudes of those running things seems no further forward in 2008. National Hunt race distances are still "about".
Imagine if they were organising the Olympics track events.

I noticed the New York publication has Analyst listed as a Francis Higgins.
Whether he was one and the same who knows.

Robert

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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:43 am Post subject:

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Robert,

Thanks for the reply.

As a matter of interest how did you find out about the possible Analyst and Francis Higgins link ?

Do you know if F H Bayles undertook a detailed survey of all British and Irish courses in 1903 for himself or on behalf of the Jockey Club ?

I can across an interesting site to do with bookmakers and other things at:

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The "Bookies & Bookmaking handicapping" link brought a smile to my lips, especially the Horse Handicapper's Slide Rule -
It looks so complex it must be right!!

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Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:27 am Post subject:

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Hi Martin,

I was just checking out used book sites and the American sites had that name listed against the book but "Analyst" was not mentioned. Actual producers sometimes had their works renamed for other markets in those days.

The Bayles books (1903 and 1908) are quite rare and sell for £250 - upwards so until I have one I can't be sure of the circumstances, but access and time to survey would likely only be with their approval. The mapping is on large sheets and detailed.

I remember in the 50s there were slide rules and circular devices for all sorts of things - central heating sizing etc. Now they send a salesman round and he makes a random guess. I don't think Derek Thompson has yet mastered the horse handicapper's slide rule though.

Robert

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Re: Flat Racing Explained - by Analyst

Postby BlindMoose » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:21 am

Hello Martin,

WOW !!
What a fascinating book to read. Any reason why the rest of it has not been 'put up' ?
Other than the fact you've probably got your work cut out, just flogging yourself stupid, providing this marvelous service.
Or is it available in text form somewhere else here ?

Keep up your excellent work.

Kind regards, Greig.

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Re: Flat Racing Explained - by Analyst

Postby martinkil » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:46 am

Which sections are missing ? we had most of them online on the last hosting site, but some may have gone walkies during the move

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Re: Flat Racing Explained - by Analyst

Postby BlindMoose » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:40 am

Basically from chapter 14 onward is missing.
Not sure how much more there is ?
Greig.

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Re: Flat Racing Explained - by Analyst

Postby SteveV » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:47 am

Would love to have a look at this but I can't see a link anywhere?

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Re: Flat Racing Explained - by Analyst

Postby martinkil » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:52 am

http://www.patternform.co.uk/freindex.htm

there is a picture of the book on the patterform home page - just click on it

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Re: Flat Racing Explained - by Analyst

Postby martinkil » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:54 am

I can see most chapters

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Re: Flat Racing Explained - by Analyst

Postby BlindMoose » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:20 am

Yeah, you can see more chapters, but the last 10 odd pages, when you click on them, do nothing.

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Re: Flat Racing Explained - by Analyst

Postby SteveV » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:24 am

Got it, there is actually a full online version as well. The Francis Higgins link seems to come from here

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ZLc ... st&f=false

He may have been a cleric, as the only other tomes of his I could find were collected sermons :)

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Re: Flat Racing Explained - by Analyst

Postby SteveV » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:49 am

BlindMoose wrote:Yeah, you can see more chapters, but the last 10 odd pages, when you click on them, do nothing.


I think he may have spontaneously combusted after writing the chapter on Tipsters..wonderful stuff


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